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Shooting abuse.

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Imagen de enigma
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ok sorry for being rude btw i respect and understand our argument mabye in time it will be done.

(p.s i put that there so people will try to post constictuvly and give a argument iwhout having a reason.)

lets see what otehrs think.
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well another problem I see with shots is. 1. if somone is on a conveyer [espicilly with autofire] it can be very hard to hit them as the movment range possibilitys make it hard to hit them 2. also in the case of autofire xcross it imeditly negates sheids also on most maps either they are large so it takes time to to cross or there are lack of conveyors make it so by the time you cross the map you are shot down, even two of my friends who I showed RS complained [and still do] about shooting. I understand your concerns that this will lead to futher limits on rs weapons but isnt a forum a place for dicussion and improvement? I just want rs to be fairer and funner for everyone. [cookie goes to the person who can remeber and find the huge 25x27 [or somthing like that map]
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Enigma,

Me neither can't really see the point of this discussion. I am principally against limiting use of blast too, even though I can see that due to extensive use of blasting (for any reason - shortage of time, low skills etc) destroys some good playing as it's more of a random hit who's getting damaged by it, f ex by blasting while you are on a belt. It's also a more powerful weapon, as you can make a lot of damage to other robots that doesn't really require any skill to plan for that. Shooting is not that random, as it only goes in one direction and if you shoot randomly, it only goes in one direction, not to all the 8 surrounding squares.

So I think both Dharo and Rotey have pointed out most of the good reasons for keeping it as it is, and I don't think that your arguments beat theirs in any way.

But I agree with you that the forum is of course for discussing these things, and to help lead the game to improvements. On the other hand, bringing something up for discussion of course doesn't automatically mean that the idea is a good idea, or get implemented. So I would encourage you to keep having opinions and suggestions about possible improvements, but you might have to come to terms with that this particularly suggestion most probably won't go through. And as someone else wrote above: this is a killing game, and further restrictions of use of weapons will make it boring in the end. My recommendation to you is therefore - if you can't change it, master it! Make sure you use it yourself as well, when appropriate for your game plan.

I hope to play with you soon again, I seem to have missed you the last weeks here!

Best regards,

Pjotr
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points out alot of people who are against it abuse it. Also shooting can be random on conyerers as if somone puhes them or they are on a wheel.... also you are right to many restrictions ruin a game but balancing isnt the same as removal. also most maps are 7x9 [blitz] which is > 8 squares..... only 4 people posted here including me 4 does not = all or a majority.xd
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Well, you are right that 4 players (me, Dharokan, Yeku and Rotey) against this suggestion is not all, and not a majority. (Sad to say, it's still a quite high percentage of current active players...). But still it's 80% to 20% of the people who have cared enough about the suggestion to comment on it.

Because - this topic thread has had almost 6.000 views. I would expect at least some of these viewers to support your point of view here, if they thought this was a real problem, and that they agreed with you against us. But none have done so, so from that I actually think we can draw the conclusion that this is not a big issue or problem among the players in general.

/Pjotr
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ok i challange someone to create or post a valid argument for my side. also a majority were against blast abuse but that was fixed xd. And if anything give me benifit of the doubt create a test game with redruced shots and see how it goes.
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The difference to the blast restrictions is that many people complained about that, and there was a logic behind that, even though I personally thought it should have remained unrestricted. But you could hear and see the complaints about extensive blasting in the chat rooms from many players over quite some time.

I have played this game for almost 10 years, and I have never, ever heard one single complaint about extensive shooting - until now...

So I totally disagree with you on this, Enigma, but that might be obvious already. I think you see a problem where there isn't any problem, and I will stand upagainst a change like this forever, as it will ruin much more of the game than it possible could do good for it.

IMHO,

Pjotr
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Pjotr wrote:
The difference to the blast restrictions is that many people complained about that, and there was a logic behind that, even though I personally thought it should have remained unrestricted. But you could hear and see the complaints about extensive blasting in the chat rooms from many players over quite some time.

I have played this game for almost 10 years, and I have never, ever heard one single complaint about extensive shooting - until now...

So I totally disagree with you on this, Enigma, but that might be obvious already. I think you see a problem where there isn't any problem, and I will stand upagainst a change like this forever, as it will ruin much more of the game than it possible could do good for it.

IMHO,

Pjotr
lol i have before especially on 8 player games. same aslo goes for blasts it was changed and it helped RS. also thats good and all but can you think of 5 reasons why my arguments are valid?
Imagen de dharokan
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Enigma, you are complaint abusing right now :D

You keep repeating the same weak arguments while ignoring any others.
And you keep talking for yourself only.

I hate being that harsh, but sometimes a moderator has to do what a moderator has to do.
Your suggestion is rejected for the moment. This subject is closed now.

If anybody else thinks, that there is a problem with shooting, just tell it to a modo (chat, pm etc.) and we will re-open this.

Cheers,
Dharo